The Interview

For almost an entire year, I slogged through the internet forest, trying to find someone who could help me get in touch with that man, Tim Chandler. I eventually found an e-mail address for him on The Choir site (I never claimed to be overly bright) and he agreed to a written interview. The following is the horrible result... ENJOY!

What do you like to do in your free time?
I don't have any free time. My wife and I have two little kids, ages 5 and 3, who take up my time in the most perfect way. I love being with them. And then sometimes, because they're little kids and I'm like everyone else who's honest about it, they drive me screaming from the room, ripping out the hair from my own head.

When did you start playing bass?
I was 10 years old. So that would be fifty years ago. My older brother had a band but no bass player. He showed me the bass fingerings to some Beatles songs. I learned them by rote, I had no idea what I was doing. After that, I didn't play again until junior high stage band. I think I learned "Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head" by B.J. Thomas.

You play bass, trombone, rhythm guitar... anything else?
Yes. I now consider myself to be one of the finest free-form jazz fusion LEAD GUITARists the world has ever known.

If you were stranded on a desert island and you had to pick just one, which member of the Partridge Family or Land of the Lost cast member would you choose to accompany you.
Well, now that's obvious isn't it? I mean, who's the prettiest one? Duh! David Cassidy.

From the list: Do you consider any band "your" band? Choir or DA, Swirling Eddies, side project?
(Tim, impersonating nearly any CCM fan): Who?

What's in your CD player now?
Foo Fighter's latest. It's called "There is Nothing Left to Lose." Foo Fighters make me wanna stand up on my hind legs and howl at the moon.

What are you reading now?
This last question, of course. (What a silly thing to ask!)

What game is in PlayStation/N64?
I don't own one. If I did, I'd probably sit in front of it for a few years. I'm thinking of getting one, I know my kids would love it and sit in front of it for a few years.

Boxers or briefs?
None of your beeswax. Okay, briefs. Okay, boxers AND briefs, but only if worn simultaneously.

Have you ever been a member of a cult?
I grew up in a penticostal church so yes, I was a member of a cult.

Do you have any Nicknames that can be repeated in mixed company?
None that I know of but I imagine there are some that I DON'T know of that can't be repeated in mixed company.

Exactly how tall are you?
Actually I'm shorter than my 5 year old but I wear fake platform-legs which, combined with expensive machinery that creates an optical illusion, brings me up to about 6'2"

What is the meaning behind "The Mighty Hand of The Yo" ?
One night I was watching Johnny Carson and Mel Torme was on. When he was introduced, he came out and made this very sincere, but very show-bizzy double-hand gesture. (I'd have to demonstrate it, it's hard to describe exactly.) The whole ATTITUDE of it was strikingly funny to me. I couldn't keep from doing it every time I saw Terry. It eventually evolved into something Terry called "The Mighty Hand of The Yo." That's as close as I can get.

Hometown:
Los Angeles

Your b-day so TC fans the world over can rejoice!
For both of them: 2-3-60. Yes I'm old and decrepit.

Have you ever salted a snail?
No, but I have a compulsion to submerse my entire head in mayonnaise whenever and wherever that situation becomes possible. Is that what you meant?

Are you now or have you ever been in love with Presty Gomez?
Yes.

Do you have any siblings? Are they musically inclined?
Yes, one older brother (the one who taught me the Beatles songs) who now, oddly enough, is younger than I am. He's a choir director at a Baptist church, plays about a dozen different instruments and also runs his own business.

Compare & contrast studio time/song writing with The Choir & Da gang.
With DA we usually end up screwing around and laughing like a bunch of idiots during the whole thing, but somehow manage to get stuff done. Terry always comes with a bunch of songs and the rest of us come with ideas and bits and peices of music and chord progressions. Sometimes we'll just start playing and make something up together. --- With the Choir, Derri and I bring our bits and peices and Steve will be scribbling lyrics and sometimes we'll also play and make something up from scratch together. Most of the time Steve comes up with the vocal melodies for Choir songs.

Did you play on the SkullMonkeys soundtrack? On the new BoomBotsfighting game as well?
I'm not sure. I never heard the final mix, so I don't know what made the soundtrack.

Touring stories: (worst accommodations, favorite show/venue, anything)
Here's one: (and I'm not making this up!) We were somewhere in Kentucky. Steve and Derri were back at the hotel, and I was with Chris Colbert and, I think Dan Michaels. We found this 24-hour mom and pop restaurant that had these things in the table that, if you put a quarter in, a disco ball would start spinning in the middle of the ceiling, the lights would change and a mechanical puppet show would start up on a small stage in the corner of the room. I ordered a meal that was something like: a barbequed roast beef sandwich, fries, a salad, another side dish, a drink, dessert and it came out to $1.25. There was a pool hall next door where you could get a beer for a quarter or something. There was an apartment for rent over the restaurant and I never found out the price but I'm sure it would've been an eight room suite for $40 a month.

We couldn't believe this place. We considered moving the band there (just for the puppet show alone.) Anyway, we raced back to the hotel to get Steve and Derri and on the way back to the restaurant in the dark, we saw an angry midget in the road which startled Derri. (He's terrified of midgets.) This is all true.

There are a lot of Tim Chandler fans out there that have been beaten down into submission by a cruel and uncaring CCM culture into believing that bass players don't matter: what would you like to say to them?
Sorry folks, but it's true. Bass players do not matter. Don't believe I'm sincere? Didn't hear me? Here, let me cup my hands around my mouth: BASS PLAYERS DO NOT REALLY MATTER. Here's the thing: being a bass player is like being a gas station attendant. Anyone can learn the basic job in about five minutes. Still don't believe me? Let's take a look at.... for instance, the first Traveling Wilbury's record. Bob Dylan, George Harrison, Roy Orbison, Tom Petty, and Jeff Lynne. Pretty good company, deserving of some kind of hall-of-fame bass guru. Who played bass on it? Hmmmm, that's funny, there's no bass player listed. There's a DRUMMER listed. ("...Bob, why don't you just play bass on this one.")

Not that any band I've ever played in made me feel like I didn't matter; quite to the contrary. But, a great guitar player or a great drummer will have more impact on a song than a bass player will.

BASS IS USUALLY THE LEAST IMPORTANT ELEMENT IN A SONG. That's just the way it is.

Did you ever write a song or part that Terry thought was too weird to record?
No, Terry's always been fearless at letting me try anything. Once in awhile I've come up with parts that I myself thought were too wierd.

What's next on your musical horizon?
Forced semi-retirement. Other than that I'll be doing a tour of Tupper-Ware parties with my new free-form jazz fusion ensemble.

What role do you play in the musical development of any given song?
It really varies. Sometimes it's just coming up with a bass part, sometimes I'll have some ideas or suggestions. If we're making stuff up on the fly, a bass player can steer the song in a particular direction, obviously, just by changing the root of the chord.

If it's a bit that I came up with, I'll have chord progressions worked out on a guitar, and some guitar parts. I really don't know how to play guitar. If you put a gun to my head and told me to play the chords to "Happy Birthday" I'd be dead. I only know how to play stuff that I make up on the guitar.

Also: there's more input from band members, in how a DA song or record comes out, than most people think. But Terry is, obviously, the one who contributes the most and absolutely the one who shapes it and puts it together and makes the whole thing work. Steve and Derri play the same kind of role in the Choir.

(I'd also like to say: Greg Flesch is the most underated and criminally ignored musician I can think of. Not only that, but, he also flies around in spy planes trying to save the world's ozone layer. I'm not joking.)

Both DA and the Choir have danced around the fringes of CCM, developing music that has garnered a loyal but small audience. How has that affected you, professionally and personally?
It's ruined my career and my life. Just kidding. No, wait, I'm not kidding. (Truth is: it's all ruined my life in some POSITIVE way. I won't bore you here with the details, as long-winded as this all is.)

Any career regrets?
Other than complete failure you mean?

Terry Taylor has mentioned your distinctive style of playing in different interviews. What is the "Tim Chandler" style of playing?
Screwing up an otherwise perfecly good song by playing an odd bass part that, to me is not odd but musical and the best that I can do, but which is in actuality garaunteed to single-handedly ensure lower record sales.

How do you describe your playing technique and/or writing process?
In terms of technical ability, I'm not a very good player. I purposely don't practice. I hear bass players who practice all the time and have flawless technique. They play every note perfectly and sound like a machine (which is wrong, which has the effect of sounding and feeling passionless) and they wear their basses up real high, right next to their Adam's Apple (which is REALLY wrong....Look: if you're gonna wear your bass up that high, don't even consider playing rock or especially, as the kids call it, punk rock. Neither one of them has anything to do with your Adam's Apple.)

And they tend to play scale-like licks and riffs that they've practiced over and over instead of playing a true bass part. Of course, THEY actually get hired to do recording so maybe they're on to something.

But I find that when I don't practice or even play for a period of time, the NEXT time I play, stuff just kinda comes out of nowhere and surprises me. Sort of like having the flu and suddenly throwing up.

As far as the writing process, I don't know. I usually sit down with a guitar and start fiddling around until I hear something in my head or until my hands start to find something.

The same with playing, actually. The less you think, the more you feel and listen, the better. After you've been playing for a few years, your hands sort of have their own process, their own way of listening. If you can get out of the way and not THINK about it, your hands will play something that's true to what you're feeling, hopefully something that's emotionally true to the music. I know that sounds strange but that's what happens.

Pick or pluck?
When I play live, I use a pick 99% of the time. In the studio:both but mostly a pick to get as much crunch out of the bass as possible

Does a Christian musician have any musical or spiritual responsibilities to their audience?
Spiritual matters are extremely private and personal to the point that they're between you and God. As far as musical responsibility, I guess that would be to try as hard as possible not to suck.

I know there is a new Choir album slowly building steam. Is there anything new on the horizon for DA or the Eddies?
Yes, they'll all (including the Choir, and especially Dan Michaels) be joining my new free-form jazz fusion ensemble.

I must know... on the Sacred Cows CD, "God Made Convertibles", did more than five minutes of practice take place before the tape rolled?
No! As a matter of fact, NO practice took place before any of the songs. We played the CD of each song over the headphones and studio speakers and just played along with it, not knowing the next chord change. Which, given the quality of the songs......never mind.

Since you sang a lot of the Farm Beetles album, can you elaborate a bit on the experience of recording the tracks over the years?
Sure. We did about two days of recording somewhere in the mid-eighties, then nothing at all for at least a decade, then a day or two somewhere in the late nineties. Also: I thought I really sucked at singing the stuff we did a couple of years ago. I never entirely got back into character; full-throttle hillbilly mode. I didn't realize it until I heard the final product.

Do you have any plans for a solo CD?
TIM FALLS OFF HIS CHAIR LAUGHING, ROLLS AROUND ON THE GROUND, POUNDING THE FLOOR UNABLE TO STOP LAUGHING. HE GOES OUT TO HIS CAR--CAN'T STOP LAUGHING. HE GOES BOWLING, GOES TO A MOVIE, DOES SOME YARD WORK, STILL LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY. HE GETS ON A PLANE, FLIES TO EUROPE FOR A MONTH, COMES BACK, HE'S STILL LAUGHING. HE SITS BACK DOWN IN HIS CHAIR, STOPS LAUGHING.

Yes. I thought about it while I was in Europe. If I DID do one, then the Swirling Eddies could make fun of it.

What is your view of the CCM industry and the music industry in general?
I can't answer that without using language that, to some, would be highly offensive, and to others, not anywhere near harsh enough.

Greg is a "rocket scientist", Ed does art, etc. What do you do in between DA? That is, are you actually one of the blessed few who can make a living at music through session work?
I did make a "living" at music for quite a few years, but when my kids were born I realized I needed to do something that was less hand-to-mouth. And I didn't want to be on the road and away from my family. I teach a computer operating system at a technical school.

Favorite DA album, Choir album & why
I honestly can't answer that. I apologize if this sounds stupid, but it's true: Whenever I have the chance to play on a new DA or Choir song, or contribute to one, or present one,--I'm like a dog in a bone-yard. I'm salivating at the chance. In the first few seconds/minutes/hours, I'm still a fan--I lose all objectivity...

Favorite album(s) of all time
That would take me about a year to get right. Instead: I'll tell you the records that come to mind/that I often play/that I still hear in my head. In no order:

The Replacements: "Let it Be" "Pleased to Meet Me"
The Beatles: (pretty much anything--start with "Revolver")
The Rolling Stones: "Some Girls" "Tattoo You" "STICKY FINGERS" "Exile on Main Street"...(almost anything)
Tom Waits: "Raindogs" (!)
Foo Fighters: "The Colour and the Shape" "There is Nothing Left to Lose"
Frank Sinatra: "The Capitol Years"
Sex Pistols: "Nevermind the Bollocks Here's the Sex Pistols"
Thin White Rope: "In the Spanish Cave" (!)
Al Green: "Greatest Hits, Vol. 1"
Cheap Trick: "Live at Budokan"
Mark Heard: "Second Hand"
Steely Dan: "A Decade of Steely Dan"
Nirvana: "Nevermind"
Sugar: "Copper Blue"
My Bloody Valentine: "Loveless" (!!!)
AC/DC: "Back in Black"
Queen: "A Night at the Opera"
Leonard Cohen: "... ... ..."

Favorite CCM group
I honestly don't listen to CCM. ...I'd end up picking my friends--Mark Heard, Mike Roe, Gene Andrusco.... ed: that's Gene Eugene

Favorite other group
???...impossible...(Replacements, Beatles, Rolling Stones, currently Foo Fighters... ...??)

Favorite bass players
That's easy. (and they're all English)---In no order:

Paul McCartney ("Dear Prudence" and "Come Together" amognst many others, are PERFECT bass parts.)
John Entwistle (of THE WHO)
Colin Moulding (of XTC)
Bruce Thomas (he played on Elvis Costello's best.)

Current rig
An increasingly temperamental 1981 Gallien-Krueger 400B bass head (that recently took six months to get fixed after the last time it fried) and an Ampeg SVT "half-stack" (four ten-inch speakers.) My old refrigerator sized SVT cabinet (eight ten-inch speakers) was blown up sometime around 1990-91 due to a mysterious series of odd circumstances, which I believe started at the Cornerstone fesival.

The bass of your life - Favorite bass you've owned
When it comes to equipment I'm a grandad--I still play the same 1981 Aria Pro II bass. It's a giant peice of wood (all one peice, no bolt-on neck) with a really loud Humbucker-like pickup. I also have a Hamer 12-string bass that I will eventually restore.

For the site, do you personally have a list of every band and every project you've played in?
No, I don't. I don't even have copies of everything I've played on because I usually have to go buy them.

One more question. Why free-form jazz fusion?
Are you kidding? People LOVE to hear an endless series of meaningless notes played as fast as possible. They LOOOOOOVE to hear two hour solos. And I LOOOOOOOOVE to see the glassy look in their eyes when...

SUDDENLY, TERRY TAYLOR APPEARS OUT OF NOWHERE AND HITS TIM IN THE BACK OF THE NECK WITH A GOLF CLUB, SNAPPING HIM OUT OF IT.

TIM: Thanks, Terry.

TERRY: Sure, but....wait a second. Wasn't this interview done through e-mail?

TIM: (looking worried) ...Yeah.

TERRY: You sat at a computer and typed out your answers to the questions, right?

TIM: Yeah, why?

TERRY: Then I'm not really here, am I.

TIM: ...Well, no.

TERRY: Then how did I get here. What am I doing here.

TIM STANDS FROZEN, WIDE-EYED. SUDDENLY HE GRINS AND POINTS OVER TERRY'S SHOULDER, TRYING TO DISTRACT HIM.

TIM: Hey look over there, I think I see a--

TERRY: Tim!

TIM: (flinching) What--sorry! What's wrong.

TERRY: What am I doing here.

TIM: (uncomfortable)Alright... actually I just used you as a cheap device to end the interview.

TERRY HITS TIM AGAIN WITH THE GOLF CLUB. IT MAKES A THREE STOOGES-LIKE COCOANUT SOUND ON TIM'S FOREHEAD.

TIM GETS OFF THE GROUND, STANDS, THEN LAYS BACK DOWN FOR A FEW MINUTES.

TIM FINALLY STANDS AND RUBS THE SWOLLEN KNOB ON HIS HEAD.

TIM: Sorry, man.

TERRY:(softening)...Aw, that's okay.

TIM: ...Wanna make a gallon of Tang and listen to Dan Michaels' solo cassette?

TERRY: Okay.

THEY LEAVE.